Why is _ArraySort so broken? Updated 1/9/22 630pm g2g

[Melba23]

markyrocks,

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if the devs want it they probably going to have to pay me for it

Then I suggest you stop work immediately because that is never going to happen - and any attempt to make such a demand would be looked upon as a very unfriendly act.

M23

[markyrocks]

4 hours ago, Melba23 said:

markyrocks,

Then I suggest you stop work immediately because that is never going to happen - and any attempt to make such a demand would be looked upon as a very unfriendly act.

M23

I'm not going to stop doing anything.  I'm not saying I won't allow it to be used but I won't hand over the source code for free.  Maybe in your world exchanging of products for currency is unfriendly.. maybe you get upset when the burger guy asks you to pay for the meal you just ordered but most people just call that business as usual.  lol unfriendly bc I've always been met with such encouraging words and well wishes when i come here.  the first page and a half of this thread was people trying to discredit me and challenge every aspect of anything I said.... please.  I make a comment about future improvements thread which was more like a wishing well than anything based on reality and I was attacked...Your comments in general are looked upon by me as an unfriendly act.  you can't even say nice job,     

[Nine]

I personally don't like this kind of thread.  I am not sure how it can help this community.  I would suggest that it should be locked. 

[Musashi]

@markyrocks In advance :
I don't want to make any judgement about the quality or usefulness of your work so far. It may be beneficial, perhaps even revolutionary, but perhaps maybe not.

6 hours ago, markyrocks said:

I'm not saying I won't allow it to be used, but I won't hand over the source code for free.

It is exactly this attitude that, in my opinion, is in conflict with one of the fundamental principles of this forum.

There are many other projects (UDF's), developed by members(f,m,d) of the community, made available to users for free. Some of them have even managed to find its way into the official distribution of AutoIt over the time.

Without this work of volunteers, which often takes years, AutoIt would not be what it is today (even if there is of course still room for improvement ).

And last but not least, you yourself benefit massively from this "free" work done by other people.

6 hours ago, Nine said:

I personally don't like this kind of thread.  I am not sure how it can help this community.  I would suggest that it should be locked. 

I fully agree with this !

[markyrocks]

Lol anyways.  If you don't like the thread don't click on it. 

My code is in the very early stages and is the baremetal performance that you all should be looking for.  Idk how that couldn't be beneficial.  Its really sad bc my latest tests almost halved my previous times just on my function execution.  I'm actually gearing up to make a redim function of my own bc due to attempting to identify the array I have to add an element at the end.  This one redim takes like 3x as long as the sort itself.  I realize reallocations are expensive but dear lord.  The last time though I essentially eliminated any need to copy anything from the heap and save it.  So basically all heap allocations have been removed bc I can simply swap the pointers around to do the sort and it all works.  (Sort them in place). 

on my machine a 200k size int array took 1400ms from start to end the 2x redims took ~550 ms each.  My dll function execution took 170-190 ms

ITs not a question or not if its game changing or not...It absolutely is.  All these encouraging words Its hyping me up to keep going.  I was just working on the barebones for the string sort.  The current version doesn't have all features quite working yet but it sorts all number types, conveniently it ignores strings. It basically treats the strings like a blank and just pushes them to the front(or back).  I've put in ways to push blank elements to one side of the array or the other,  ummm it can sort ascending or descending and I've implemented start and end (iterator functionality).  But ya its actually going really well It.  The source code is the precompiled files.  I'm not sure what you want that's my intellectual property.  You want me to hand over the keys to my truck too while im at it?  Not like autoit has their source available for free, not the current version anyway.  Its ok for them but when I do it how dare I.  lol that seems reasonable. 

I'd also like to add that the current version looks nothing like the previous versions that i've shown.  

Edited January 14, 2022 by markyrocks

[junkew]

@Nine Although I agree that "The tone of voice in this thread" can be different but I remember days with Valik where it was even worse.

I see an enthusiast diving into an area of optimiziation of arrray sorting of numbers which is a small subarea of AutoIt and it will grow to a UDF or not. 

If not shared (or stays at 0.1 version) we move on to the next thread.

 

[Jos]

13 minutes ago, junkew said:

Valik where it was even worse.

...and we all know what that led to.....   and indeed ignore BS in general is the best stategy

Edited January 14, 2022 by Jos

[mLipok]

1 hour ago, Jos said:

indeed ignore BS in general is the best stategy

BS ?

[RTFC]

BS = post-digestive faecal excretions of adult males of the bos taurus species.

Edited January 14, 2022 by RTFC

[Earthshine]

This thread certainly is BS

 

A half baked solution to a problem nobody cares about because everybody else uses SQL database or they’ll use a different language completely

Edited January 14, 2022 by Earthshine

[Somerset]

The backhanded compliments that this OP is handing out is ridiculous and borderline taunting is childish as well. As a long time user of autoit, I'd tell you to blow it out your porthole, but you are already doing that when you speak to the people who actually did the implementations of features. You're not helping by trying to inflate your own sense of accomplishment(s).

[Jos]

Guys, lets not get into a pissing contest as that leads nowhere and simply ignore the thread when you don't like what you read...  there really is nothing to win here...

[Musashi]

25 minutes ago, Jos said:

Guys, lets not get into a pissing contest as that leads nowhere and simply ignore the thread when you don't like what you read...  there really is nothing to win here...

“So it is Written, So it Shall be Done:”

[markyrocks]

my point exactly.  Everyone so quick to pile on... This is just like every other post i'm heavily involved it.  People come in talk smack and somehow i'm always the bad guy.  In case you havent' noticed i'm fine with that.  I might aswell play the part.  I wish people would ignore me bc trust me I don't want to deal with this nonsense that some of you all bring to my door.  By all means please hit the bricks.  I'm not seeking you out or seeking confrontation but i'm not going to shy away either.  The biggest problem I see is that I'm not going to sugar coat the truth to make anyone else feel better.  Sitting around and pretending autoit is even remotely relevant is just a fallacy.  python is just as simple to learn has 10x the capabilities,  superfast, is actually oop and amazingly things usually just work the way theyre supposed to.    O not to mention that it was just voted programming language of the year?  I'm wondering where autoit fell on the list...

as a side note I was just able to pull out the strings.... what a pita.  

 

https://analyticsindiamag.com/python-is-again-the-top-programming-language-of-the-year/

Edited January 14, 2022 by markyrocks

[Danyfirex]

So, move to python  🤣 That way you'll avoid the big AutoIt problems 🤔

 

Saludos

 

Edited January 14, 2022 by Danyfirex

[Jos]

2 hours ago, markyrocks said:

Sitting around and pretending autoit is even remotely relevant is just a fallacy.

Topic closed due to irrelevance of AutoIt claimed by the OP.

I have grown tired of these word-walls with these BS stories. Either post relevant contributions or simply go somewhere else.

Edited January 14, 2022 by Jos
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