Dana86 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 My program is reading, writing & processing gbs of data everyday. 1. Will this eventually damage & reduce SSD write/read speed over time? 2. Would running programs off of multiple dedicated smaller SSDs help increase/retain performance? If anyone knows that would be much appreciated! I've been planning on investing in some SSDs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators JLogan3o13 Posted March 12, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) That is a very broad question, as there is no one blanket rule for all SSDs - you have different quality drives that are purpose-built for different activities. If you Google "SSD longevity vs HDD" you will find a number of articles from different companies that have performed testing, on a wide array of hardware from normal 'home-user' grade to multi-thousand $$ enterprise drives using NAND and ECC. Edit: Fixed spelling, up way too early this morning Edited March 12, 2021 by JLogan3o13 seadoggie01 1 "Profanity is the last vestige of the feeble mind. For the man who cannot express himself forcibly through intellect must do so through shock and awe" - Spencer W. Kimball How to get your question answered on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolflake Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 The down side of SSD's is they have a limited number of writes but the limit is pretty big: Samsung states that their Samsung SSD 850 PRO SATA, with a capacity of 128 GB, 256 GB, 512 or 1 TB, is “built to handle 150 terabytes written (TBW), which equates to a 40 GB daily read/write workload over a ten-year period.” Samsung even promises that the product is “withstanding up to 600 terabytes written (TBW).” A normal office user writes approximately between 10 and 35 GB on a normal day. Even if one raises this amount up to 40 GB, it means that they could write (and only write) more than almost 5 years until they reach the 70 TBW limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argumentum Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Dana86 said: My program is reading, writing & processing gbs of data everyday. See if you can use a RAM disk for faster read/write. Also, I rather use NVMe over SSD. If for long time storage, use something to attend to bit-rot. TheDcoder 1 Follow the link to my code contribution ( and other things too ). FAQ - Please Read Before Posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDcoder Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, argumentum said: See if you can use a RAM disk for faster read/write. Excellent suggestion, I use the RAM for all I/O heavy operations, it is the most durable AND the most fastest medium to process data The only downside is that it is volatile, so no long-term storage. But it works great as long as your machine is powered There are quite a few programs to do this in Windows, but I personally use ImDisk (which also supports mounting of disk images), I also think it offers an option for persistent RAM storage by automatically backing everything up in an image before shutting down. 2 hours ago, argumentum said: Also, I rather use NVMe over SSD. Strictly speaking, NVMe is a connection interface, the underlying storage system is always and SSD. I assume you are referring to SATA SSDs by "SSD" -- I personally use the SSD for my OS partition as well as my home partition as it makes things fast, but for everything else, I use my other "SSD", i.e slow spinning disk argumentum 1 EasyCodeIt - A cross-platform AutoIt implementation - Fund the development! (GitHub will double your donations for a limited time) DcodingTheWeb Forum - Follow for updates and Join for discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 hours ago, wolflake said: The down side of SSD's is they have a limited number of writes but the limit is pretty big: Samsung states that their Samsung SSD 850 PRO SATA, with a capacity of 128 GB, 256 GB, 512 or 1 TB, is “built to handle 150 terabytes written (TBW), which equates to a 40 GB daily read/write workload over a ten-year period.” Samsung even promises that the product is “withstanding up to 600 terabytes written (TBW).” A normal office user writes approximately between 10 and 35 GB on a normal day. Even if one raises this amount up to 40 GB, it means that they could write (and only write) more than almost 5 years until they reach the 70 TBW limit. You should post the link to where you get your information My resources are limited. You must ask the right questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, argumentum said: See if you can use a RAM disk for faster read/write. Also, I rather use NVMe over SSD. If for long time storage, use something to attend to bit-rot. NVME is still an SSD just a different type and faster than SATA 3 ssd nvme can be sata as well but the preferred type is the PCIE type of drive For the greatest speed And performance Edited March 13, 2021 by Earthshine My resources are limited. You must ask the right questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTFC Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, TheDcoder said: The only downside is that it is volatile The second downside is that RAM is small; even with 64 GB, many of my datasets wouldn't fit in there. 4 hours ago, TheDcoder said: ImDisk I second the motion;ImDisk is the best, free, open-source RAM disk manager I've ever used. Edited March 13, 2021 by RTFC TheDcoder 1 My Contributions and Wrappers Spoiler BitMaskSudokuSolver BuildPartitionTable CodeCrypter CodeScanner DigitalDisplay Eigen4AutoIt FAT Suite HighMem MetaCodeFileLibrary OSgrid Pool RdRand SecondDesktop SimulatedAnnealing Xbase I/O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDcoder Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, RTFC said: even with 64 GB, many of my datasets wouldn't fit in there. It depends on the volume of data you could process at once, most people would be pretty happy with 64 GB I think. EasyCodeIt - A cross-platform AutoIt implementation - Fund the development! (GitHub will double your donations for a limited time) DcodingTheWeb Forum - Follow for updates and Join for discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchd Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 You can consider a RAID (-5 or -6) system of SSDs. Use a good dedicated RAID controler, like ARECA or similar. You'll minimize SSD wear yet benefit from RAID robustness and speed. This wonderful site allows debugging and testing regular expressions (many flavors available). An absolute must have in your bookmarks.Another excellent RegExp tutorial. Don't forget downloading your copy of up-to-date pcretest.exe and pcregrep.exe hereRegExp tutorial: enough to get startedPCRE v8.33 regexp documentation latest available release and currently implemented in AutoIt beta. SQLitespeed is another feature-rich premier SQLite manager (includes import/export). Well worth a try.SQLite Expert (freeware Personal Edition or payware Pro version) is a very useful SQLite database manager.An excellent eBook covering almost every aspect of SQLite3: a must-read for anyone doing serious work.SQL tutorial (covers "generic" SQL, but most of it applies to SQLite as well)A work-in-progress SQLite3 tutorial. Don't miss other LxyzTHW pages!SQLite official website with full documentation (may be newer than the SQLite library that comes standard with AutoIt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) Or just use Raided enterprise class HDDs made for the task get. QNAP box for the raided drives Edited March 13, 2021 by Earthshine My resources are limited. You must ask the right questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchd Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Yeah, I've long used 8 HP SAS drives (15k rpm) but these server-class HDDs are much more expensive than today's SSDs having a similar capacity. I still have my Areca ARC1882I RAID controller but I don't have any use of it now. Earthshine 1 This wonderful site allows debugging and testing regular expressions (many flavors available). An absolute must have in your bookmarks.Another excellent RegExp tutorial. Don't forget downloading your copy of up-to-date pcretest.exe and pcregrep.exe hereRegExp tutorial: enough to get startedPCRE v8.33 regexp documentation latest available release and currently implemented in AutoIt beta. SQLitespeed is another feature-rich premier SQLite manager (includes import/export). Well worth a try.SQLite Expert (freeware Personal Edition or payware Pro version) is a very useful SQLite database manager.An excellent eBook covering almost every aspect of SQLite3: a must-read for anyone doing serious work.SQL tutorial (covers "generic" SQL, but most of it applies to SQLite as well)A work-in-progress SQLite3 tutorial. Don't miss other LxyzTHW pages!SQLite official website with full documentation (may be newer than the SQLite library that comes standard with AutoIt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 SSDs are great, but they have 1 major inconvenience (it is well documented). If there is an unexpected electricity shutdown, there is a small chance of corrupting the drive. It happened to me once, and I had to repair and reinstall OS. But mine is quite old ~7 years. I believe recent SSD drives are less vulnerable nowadays. “They did not know it was impossible, so they did it” ― Mark Twain Spoiler Block all input without UAC Save/Retrieve Images to/from Text Monitor Management (VCP commands) Tool to search in text (au3) files Date Range Picker Virtual Desktop Manager Sudoku Game 2020 Overlapped Named Pipe IPC HotString 2.0 - Hot keys with string x64 Bitwise Operations Multi-keyboards HotKeySet Recursive Array Display Fast and simple WCD IPC Multiple Folders Selector Printer Manager GIF Animation (cached) Screen Scraping Multi-Threading Made Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana86 Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 Thanks guys that answered all of my questions! argumentum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolflake Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) @Earthshine Sorry to be so late in getting back but the link is http://SSD Lifespan: How Long do SSDs Really Last? (ontrack.com) Edited March 24, 2021 by wolflake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseakins Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 5:28 AM, wolflake said: orry to be so late in getting back but the link This links back to this very thread, so were I an AI, I would now be in a fatal embrace. What a terrible place to spend eternity. ☹️ Bilgus and argumentum 2 Phil Seakins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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