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...I may have exaggerated my strong dislike for the terminal. If I can automate stuff in Linux, then is an environment where I can work.
Typing once to create a script is ok. Running the script with a GUI is better. I'd make a pikachu Pick and choose of everything, click, click.

I'm pushing my clients to use VMs. If I can run a fan-less, $150 PC with Linux, I figure, I'll never have a user calling me to their station, ever again.
Boot straight to RDP. They'd be happy for the cheaper setup. But I have to feel comfortable in the Linux environment.
I'd have to learn python for my first scripts for Linux ( that sucks ).

By the time you get something going, I'll be ready :) 

PS: no pressure. Do your thing. I'll do this Linux exploration on time I'd put aside when I don't wanna play TF2 to relax  ;) 

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Interesting thread, somehow missed it before. For what it's worth, speaking from personal experience, I think it's worth pursuing (regardless of the merits of having a native AutoInux), because n

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Come on folks, where is your heart, don't be so outright discouraging with your voting. Why so negative? Everything starts with a dream, and not all dreams come true, but allow him that one

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5 minutes ago, argumentum said:

...I may have exaggerated my strong dislike for the terminal. If I can automate stuff in Linux, then is an environment where I can work.
Typing once to create a script is ok. Running the script with a GUI is better. I'd make a pikachu Pick and choose of everything, click, click. 

That is okay, I prefer that too... one of the reasons I want to be able to use AutoIt in Linux :)

18 minutes ago, argumentum said:

I'm pushing my clients to use VMs. If I can run a fan-less, $150 PC with Linux, I figure, I'll never have a user calling me to their station, ever again.

Linux is pretty good for that purpose, it is easier to maintain than Windows once you have it set it up!

19 minutes ago, argumentum said:

I'd have to learn python for my first scripts for Linux ( that sucks ).

Yeah, that seems to be the most convenient (and popular) choice for scripting in Linux, good luck with learning! Many years ago I learned python as my first proper programming language, never really took off with it... I guess I was too dumb back then and the things I wanted to do were out of my league (especially GUI).

24 minutes ago, argumentum said:

By the time you get something going, I'll be ready :) 

PS: no pressure. Do your thing. I'll do this Linux exploration on time I'd put aside when I don't wanna play TF2 to relax  ;) 

Thanks, I am trying to finish the existing freelance projects I have before beginning work. I will post updates here if I have any.

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Interesting thread, somehow missed it before.

For what it's worth, speaking from personal experience, I think it's worth pursuing (regardless of the merits of having a native AutoInux), because nothing ever taught me more about programming design and coherent, consistent language structure than when I had to develop my own programming environment a few years back (now mainly used by other people). If you can spare the time and effort and you think it's worthwhile, make it happen.:)

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@RTFC Thanks for the vote of confidence, I am also hoping to learn a lot of new things and gain interesting experiences when working on this project :D

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If you feel like it, by all means give it a go - language design is a lot of fun* and you could check AutoHotKey's fork for implementation reference as far as WinAPI goes. However, as people already pointed out, mapping AutoIt's API to Linux and/or OSX would be a bother - too many things are too different to how they are done on Windows.

* Although I probably wouldn't go with pure AutoIt-like syntax - e.g. lack of proper array references is a bother.

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@YellowAfterlife Thanks for the advice, I am already somewhat familiar with WinAPI and I plan to do most of the learning on my own, though I was planning to check AHK's source code if I couldn't get something done :)

2 hours ago, YellowAfterlife said:

However, as people already pointed out, mapping AutoIt's API to Linux and/or OSX would be a bother - too many things are too different to how they are done on Windows. 

That is correct. As I have mentioned I would be only implementing the simple/basic and essential part of the language, avoid all platform specific stuff in the beginning. Later down the road maybe there is a possibility to selectively allow platform-specific APIs (like DllCall, ObjCreate etc.).

2 hours ago, YellowAfterlife said:

Although I probably wouldn't go with pure AutoIt-like syntax - e.g. lack of proper array references is a bother. 

Interesting, can you elaborate further?

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AutoIt arrays show a number of limitations, making some algorithms really painful to code.

No sub-array access
Execute can't process array declarations
No array literal (dismissed featured)
Many array functions use a count in [0] (pointless)
Possibly other points I overlook right now

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Many array functions use a count in [0] (pointless)

I do not think any of the _Array* functions actually use (in the sense of an obligation to have) a count in element [0].  Certainly many AutoIt functions return a count in that element, although several of those have an option not to do so.

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I know it isn't a feature buried in the implementation of array variables themselves, but this inconsistancy of some legacy functions is a bit painful. Easy, but too late to fix.

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SQL tutorial (covers "generic" SQL, but most of it applies to SQLite as well)
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@jchd Thanks for listing out the limitations/bad practices related to AutoIt arrays

17 hours ago, jchd said:

No sub-array access

I am not sure if this counts: 

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Func Example()
    Local $aArray[2] = ["Foo"]
    Local $aInnerArray[1] = ["Bar"]
    $aArray[1] = $aInnerArray
    ConsoleWrite($aArray[0] & @TAB & ($aArray[1])[0] & @CRLF)
EndFunc
17 hours ago, jchd said:

Execute can't process array declarations

Oh, that is interesting! I did not know about that before :o

It is worth mentioning that Execute might not be able to make it into my implementation as I am designing it to be a compiled language (so when the code is actually executing, it is in byte-code form)... maybe it is possible to include the compiler to dynamically compile it on runtime but there would be some problems as the context (variables, functions etc.) is going to be modified after being compiled.

17 hours ago, jchd said:

No array literal (dismissed featured)

I recall making a thread (or maybe even a feature request) about this, I personally think it shouldn't be that hard to implement array literals so I can add it as a special feature :)

18 hours ago, jchd said:

Many array functions use a count in [0] (pointless)

This is a somewhat unfortunate myth which is sort of the norm these days, but it is not the fault of the language's design I think.

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1 minute ago, TheDcoder said:

I am not sure if this counts:

You examplify nested arrays, while I refer to sub-arrays: 

Local $a[5][3][2] = [ _
    [[789, -12], [19, 41], [-1578, -320]], _
    [[1476, 456], [4016, 15], [5821, 748]], _
    [[-478, 687], [546, 78], [210, 65]], _
    [[5641, 781], [56, 345], [2846, 45612]], _
    [[-7845, 164], [14, -9], [168, 4894]], _
]
; subarray
Local $aSub = $a[2] ; that should be    [[-478, 687], [546, 78], [210, 65]]

Suppose you want to write an UDF that takes an array as argument, whose dimension may be anything from 1 to 24 (the practical upper number of dimensions for an AutoIt array). Say it's a sort or something that requires changing the order of elements in the array. Your code will have to look like this (don't focus on the operation actually being done here, just at the huge Switch and ridiculously nested loops):

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Switch $iDims
            Case 1
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then $aArray[$a] = $aTmp[.Item($a)]
                Next
            Case 2
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            $aArray[$a][$b] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b]
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 3
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                $aArray[$a][$b][$c] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c]
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 4
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d]
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 5
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e]
                                    Next
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 6
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f]
                                        Next
                                    Next
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 7
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g]
                                            Next
                                        Next
                                    Next
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 8
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h]
                                                Next
                                            Next
                                        Next
                                    Next
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 9
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$i]
                                                    Next
                                                Next
                                            Next
                                        Next
                                    Next
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 10
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j]
                                                        Next
                                                    Next
                                                Next
                                            Next
                                        Next
                                    Next
                                Next
                            Next
                        Next
                    EndIf
                Next
            Case 11
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k]
                                                            Next
                                                        Next
                                                    Next
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            Case 12
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L]
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            Case 13
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m]
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            Case 14
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n]
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            Case 15
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o]
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                Next
            Case 16
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p]
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                Next
            Case 17
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q]
                                                                                    Next
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            Case 18
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r]
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            Case 19
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            For $s = 0 To $aUBounds[18]
                                                                                                $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s]
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            Case 20
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            For $s = 0 To $aUBounds[18]
                                                                                                For $t = 0 To $aUBounds[19]
                                                                                                    $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t]
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            Case 21
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            For $s = 0 To $aUBounds[18]
                                                                                                For $t = 0 To $aUBounds[19]
                                                                                                    For $u = 0 To $aUBounds[20]
                                                                                                        $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u]
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            Case 22
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            For $s = 0 To $aUBounds[18]
                                                                                                For $t = 0 To $aUBounds[19]
                                                                                                    For $u = 0 To $aUBounds[20]
                                                                                                        For $v = 0 To $aUBounds[21]
                                                                                                            $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u][$v] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u][$v]
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            Case 23
                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            For $s = 0 To $aUBounds[18]
                                                                                                For $t = 0 To $aUBounds[19]
                                                                                                    For $u = 0 To $aUBounds[20]
                                                                                                        For $v = 0 To $aUBounds[21]
                                                                                                            For $w = 0 To $aUBounds[22]
                                                                                                                $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u][$v][$w] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u][$v][$w]
                                                                                                            Next
                                                                                                        Next
                                                                                                    Next
                                                                                                Next
                                                                                            Next
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                    EndIf
                Next
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                For $a = $iStart To $iEnd
                    If .Item($a) <> $a Then
                        For $b = 0 To $aUBounds[1]
                            For $c = 0 To $aUBounds[2]
                                For $d = 0 To $aUBounds[3]
                                    For $e = 0 To $aUBounds[4]
                                        For $f = 0 To $aUBounds[5]
                                            For $g = 0 To $aUBounds[6]
                                                For $h = 0 To $aUBounds[7]
                                                    For $i = 0 To $aUBounds[8]
                                                        For $j = 0 To $aUBounds[9]
                                                            For $k = 0 To $aUBounds[10]
                                                                For $L = 0 To $aUBounds[11]
                                                                    For $m = 0 To $aUBounds[12]
                                                                        For $n = 0 To $aUBounds[13]
                                                                            For $o = 0 To $aUBounds[14]
                                                                                For $p = 0 To $aUBounds[15]
                                                                                    For $q = 0 To $aUBounds[16]
                                                                                        For $r = 0 To $aUBounds[17]
                                                                                            For $s = 0 To $aUBounds[18]
                                                                                                For $t = 0 To $aUBounds[19]
                                                                                                    For $u = 0 To $aUBounds[20]
                                                                                                        For $v = 0 To $aUBounds[21]
                                                                                                            For $w = 0 To $aUBounds[22]
                                                                                                                For $x = 0 To $aUBounds[23]
                                                                                                                    $aArray[$a][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u][$v][$w][$x] = $aTmp[.Item($a)][$b][$c][$d][$e][$f][$g][$h][$i][$j][$k][$L][$m][$n][$o][$p][$q][$r][$s][$t][$u][$v][$w][$x]
                                                                                                                Next
                                                                                                            Next
                                                                                                        Next
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                    EndIf
                Next
        EndSwitch

 

 

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@jchd Thanks, I understand now. Multi-dimensional arrays are tricky beasts... and it is easy to confuse them with nested arrays, I have made that mistake before 😕

There is also an ambiguity in the array definition/declaration syntax which arises due to this... maybe the solution is to not have multi-dimensional arrays and only have nested arrays (like how it works in C)? I have no idea about the pros and cons.

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No! Nested Arrays in AutoIt are even worse. A decent high-level language requires multi-dim arrays as well as other types of containers like lists with efficient functions to manipulate them.

C arrays are just a convention for pointer manipulation. Hopefully pointers in AutoIt are of very restricted use.

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3 hours ago, jchd said:

No! Nested Arrays in AutoIt are even worse.

At the moment yes, but if we could eliminate multi-dimensional arrays we could easily adopt the syntax to access nested arrays.

3 hours ago, jchd said:

A decent high-level language requires multi-dim arrays as well as other types of containers like lists with efficient functions to manipulate them.

That sounds about right to me, maybe we can draw inspiration from other high-level languages.

3 hours ago, jchd said:

C arrays are just a convention for pointer manipulation. Hopefully pointers in AutoIt are of very restricted use.

Pointers are both a blessing and a curse, I hated them in the beginning but I love them for the flexibility they offer in C now... so I am a bit biased. But I do agree that they should not have a role in high-level languages like AutoIt.

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I voted negative but why not simply start with a trial based on ANTLR. You will learn a lot about compiler implementation

It will build you quickly a multiplatform lexer and parser and from there you can see which support you want to build in multi platform

I am on the negative side due to the linkage from AutoIt to windows with some huge UDF's build over the years

  • send/post message stuff
  • COM
  • .Net integration
  • Office udf's
  • UIAutomation UDF
  • Different IDE's available
  • .....

I already have powershell and bash running on win and linux so scripting possibilities enough.

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6 hours ago, junkew said:

start with a trial based on ANTLR. You will learn a lot about compiler implementation 

I reckon I will :)

I am still doing research on the best way to implement the parser, thanks for the advice, I will keep that software in my mind.

6 hours ago, junkew said:

I am on the negative side due to the linkage from AutoIt to windows with some huge UDF's build over the years 

  • send/post message stuff 
  • COM
  • .Net integration
  • Office udf's
  • UIAutomation UDF
  • Different IDE's available
  • .....

I already have powershell and bash running on win and linux so scripting possibilities enough.

That is something which is inevitable, no doubt many would miss the very convenient features Windows offers, but if you need to go cross-platform you will have to stick to the very basics. We still have awesome features like a simple easy to understand syntax which just works :D

 

The idea is to not port the whole of AutoIt to Linux, that would be impossible (as several others have said earlier). The goal is to have a simple scripting language like AutoIt in Linux, so you that can write your own scripts to your own things without having to resort to complex scripting and platform-dependent stuff.

Maybe I should clarify my intentions by amending my first post? I see that many people are against this simply because Windows-specific things would break...

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3 hours ago, TheDcoder said:

many would miss the very convenient features Windows offers, but if you need to go cross-platform you will have to stick to the very basics.

You can go beyond "very basic" features!

3 hours ago, TheDcoder said:

The goal is to have a simple scripting language like AutoIt in Linux, so you that can write your own scripts to your own things without having to resort to complex scripting and platform-dependent stuff.

If you base your work on free QT for instance you can really become platform-independant yet offer a very wide range of features comparable with what you come from. The general design would be pretty similar to AutoIt but portable: a C++ core wrapped in a more user-friendly scripting language (interpreted, byte-coded or compiled, pick your choice.) Targets can then be desktop Win_xx, Linux, Mac OS, Android, IOS, Win CE, QNX, ... and offer essentially the same functions, look & feel and coding.

That path would certainly drive you many more enthousiast contributors than just producing a bare-bones language without all the bells and whistles users need in practice.

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54 minutes ago, jchd said:

You can go beyond "very basic" features!

I admit that it was an exaggeration, the more accurate description is "basic and common" features :D

56 minutes ago, jchd said:

If you base your work on free QT

Is that a language? Or are you referring to the framework? I recall there being some BASIC language which was based on the Qt framework... or maybe the KDE framework, cannot recall the details at the moment.

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I clearly mean the framework: https://www.qt.io/download
There, expand the "Essentials", "Additional features" and "Tools" items to see what's in the free box. Beyond that you have a large live contributing community.

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9 minutes ago, jchd said:

I clearly mean the framework

There is something called KBasic, which eerily sounds similar to what you are describing:

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KBasic uses Qt(R) as its toolkit to provide cross-platform abilities. Qt(R) is the best C++ cross-platform toolkit available

That is what I was recalling in my last post. The language itself seem to be poorly maintained... On top of that, there seems to be a successor to it called "Basic For Qt®" (Yes, including the registered trademark)

Either way, both of them are not free (except for the Linux version of KBasic, which appears to be free). I am not really interested in going down the route of using frameworks just for the sake of that.

 

With time, we can maybe even (*cough*)fork the AutoIt language to add additional features, but that is not the primary goal nor do I have the skills to do it at the moment.

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