GreenCan, That is the forum software corrupting the text - I already mention it in the first post: That is why I am removing the Beta codes from the thread as I go and only putting a zip file into the first post. As you confirm my fix to the problem you found, I will release a BUGFIX version tomorrow. I am glad you like the $WM_SIZE example - as you can see it is not difficult to do if you use it correctly. As to which is the best - it depends on what you want to do with your ListView. In general, I tend to use the native controls if I can and only use the UDF controls if I need some of the really advanced features that they offer. mesale0077, Thanks for the compliments - and the suggestion. I will look into it how I might implement it - but as I often say, do not hold your breath. M23